Re: [IRCA] Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 10-26 (Conclusion)

[d1028gary@xxxxxxx]

Bruce, Mauno and Walt,
 
Thank you all very much for the detailed investigation and explanation of the CRI-1323 programming schedule in both Russian and Korean during our sunrise enhancement period. Bruce, your extensive explanation on CRI's dual-language transmitting is very helpful, and thanks also to Mauno for the clarification on the 1098-RTI information in the WRTH. Walt, I also appreciate your listening to the marginal 1323 MP3 recorded yesterday.
 
This morning's Asian propagation wasn't the best, but I was able to record a signal from 1323-CRI at 1320 UTC that was clearly in Russian. Thank you all again for your information and assistance.

http://www.mediafire.com/listen/d4wl2ocvpycsk46/1323-CRI-1320z102713PL380.MP3

73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)



-----Original Message-----
From: Mauno Ritola <Mauno.Ritola@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Sun, Oct 27, 2013 5:45 am
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 10-26 (Conclusion)


Gary,
I just checked 1323 kHz via Japanese remote rxs and I could hear BOTH 
Russian and Korean from CRI as there should be. If you check carefully, 
they are both listed in WRTH 2013. Shuangyashan in Heilongjiang is 
listed as 200 kW. Here in Finland I hear CRI Russian, but that is from 
the Xinjiang site. As Bruce says, there are three CRI sites operating on 
1323 kHz. Lhasa site on 1323 kHz has probably been an error from the 
very beginning.
As for RTI 1098 kHz, WRTH 2013 was NOT outdated: in B12 RTI used it 
1300-1700, but stopped in A13 as I tried to explain, giving the link to 
A13 schedules.

Hth,

Mauno

27.10.2013 9:03, Bruce Portzer kirjoitti:
> CRI's use of 1323 is rather complicated:
>
> There's the Russian service transmitter which is located in 
> Heilongjiang province and probably beams east or northeast with 600kw, 
> which explains why we hear it so well.  I have it listed in the PAL as 
> switching to CNR2 at 1500, but that may be out of date.  Last weekend 
> at Grayland, I heard Russian until 1600 and then it switched to 
> Chinese (presumably CNR2 but not confirmed).
>
> There's also the Korean service which operates from a site in 
> neighboring Jilin province and presumably beams south towards Korea.  
> The Russian and Korean audiences are in nearly opposite directions and 
> hundreds of miles from one another, which explains why CRI can get 
> away with having high powered transmitters that close together.  It 
> also explains why the Korean service isn't heard very often in North 
> America.
>
> There's a third site way out west in XInjiang, which also carries 
> Russian programs, and possibly some other languages (I need to 
> reconfirm the info I have in the PAL).  I don't think it's been heard 
> in this part of the world, and would be hard to differentiate from the 
> other site.
>
> Finally, there's a site believed to be in Lhasa that is (was?) used 
> for broadcasts to South Asia.  I can't say we'd be able to hear that 
> one in North America.
>
>
> Bruce
>
> On 10/26/2013 22:58, d1028gary@xxxxxxx wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Nick,
>>   Thanks for your observations on the 1017 and 1323 CRI programming.
>>   For some unknown reason, I had always thought like you did-- that 
>> 1017-CRI had Korean programming (heard by all of us many times) 
>> during our sunrise enhancement hours, and that 1323-CRI generally 
>> carried Russian programming. But this morning at 1420 I finally had a 
>> 1323 kHz signal with Korean-sounding male speech, so I was somewhat 
>> puzzled. I checked the 2013 WRTH and found that CRI broadcasts Korean 
>> programming on both 1017 and 1323 kHz from 1100-1500 UTC daily. Of 
>> course, after your 1098 UnID recording from a few days back proved to 
>> be something other than the RTI transmitter suggested by the outdated 
>> 2013 WRTH data, I don't know whether to believe it or not :-) The PAL 
>> shows Russian programming on the CRI 1323 transmitter (near Korea) 
>> from 1100-1500. The short recording from this morning on 1323 at 1420 
>> UTC isn't very conclusive either way, but with headphones it sounded 
>> more Korean to me than Russian, which led me to check what the 2013 
>> WRTH had to say about the CRI 13!
> 23!
>>    schedule.
>> http://www.mediafire.com/listen/u58887pdptdkuiv/1323-CRI-1420z102613PL380.MP3 

>>
>>   Like you, I have a 1323-CRI recording from six days ago that 
>> sounded more Russian than Korean-- so the PAL may have more recent 
>> documentation from CRI than the 2013 WRTH
>> http://www.mediafire.com/listen/fym3p4pvav98s2u/1323-CRI-1320z102013PL380.MP3 

>>
>>
>> 73, Gary
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nick Hall-Patch <nhp@xxxxxxxx>
>> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America 
>> <irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sat, Oct 26, 2013 10:06 pm cl
>> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Puyallup, WA Ultralight TP's for 10-26 (Conclusion)
>>
>>
>> Getting Korean from CRI on 1323 is pretty unusual here Gary; I'd
>> consider that a catch here, where it is pretty much always Russian
>> (when it's not splatter, hi).
>>
>> best wishes,
>>
>> Nick
>>
>>
>> At 23:43 26-10-13, Gary wrote:
>>
>>> ....
>>> The session started off with a bang at 1300 UTC when a monster
>>> carrier on 1323 kHz suddenly showed up on the modified ICF-2010
>>> inside the house, which of course disappeared completely once the
>>> 12" FSL antenna was set up in the back yard. 1323-CRI was checked
>>> throughout the session in the hopes that it would somehow
>>> re-energize itself, and it did very briefly (around 1422, with the
>>> CRI Korean service).
>>>
>
>
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