Re: [IRCA] Oregon Cliff (Cape Perpetua) Ultralight TP's and DU's for 8-19

[d1028gary@xxxxxxx]

Hi KAZ,

<<<   Have any of you compared ocean cliff reception to adjacent beach reception when 
using the EXACT same setup?

ie...ULR and 12" FSL on the cliff vs same make ULR and a 12" FSL on a nearby 
beach?   >>>

Since the new 12" FSL models (both tunable and broadband) were only designed and built last winter, Neil, we haven't yet had time to run an exact test like you describe. I was hoping for a joint DXpedition with you guys this summer, where we could have tested this (and many other variations) out thoroughly-- but you know how we accidentally ended up 98 miles apart :-)

There is already an extra 12" tunable FSL here for running an A/B test like this, and as soon as I can track down a volunteer to join me on an ocean cliff DXpedition, I would be eager to run it (and post relative strength MP3's). Probably the greatest challenge will be in tracking down a volunteer to join such a DXpedition... there seems to be something about sheer ocean cliffs that sends DXers running in the opposite direction :-)

73, Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA)
   

   


-----Original Message-----
From: neilkaz <neilkaz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wed, Aug 21, 2013 8:29 am
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Oregon Cliff (Cape Perpetua) Ultralight TP's and DU's	for 8-19


Have any of you compared ocean cliff reception to adjacent beach reception when 
using the EXACT same setup?

ie...ULR and 12" FSL on the cliff vs same make ULR and a 12" FSL on a nearby 
beach?

73 KAZ


-----Original Message-----
>From: d1028gary@xxxxxxx
>Sent: Aug 20, 2013 3:23 PM
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>Subject: Re: [IRCA] Oregon Cliff (Cape Perpetua) Ultralight TP's and DU's	for 
8-19
>
>
>Hi Nick,
>
><<<  It's hard to believe that we were listening on the same planet Gary, 
>let alone the same coast, though admittedly, I'm quite a way from the 
>open Pacific here.   As I said yesterday, that morning was pretty 
>much the biggest stinker this summer here.   >>>
>
>Yes, it seems that a more southerly location can often make all the difference 
in TP propagation. Dennis was DXing right in between us, and he reported some of 
what showed up at the Cliff yesterday, including the awesome signal from 
1566-HLAZ.
>
>The cliffs like Rockwork and Cape Perpetua really do seem to generate their own 
unique twists in DU and TP propagation, though, even when compared to adjacent 
sea level beaches. That's probably why the results often seem so bizarre and 
wacky.
>
>73, Gary DeBock (back in the DU-dead zone of Puyallup, WA)
>
>
>  
> 
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Nick Hall-Patch <nhp@xxxxxxxx>
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<irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Tue, Aug 20, 2013 6:43 am
>Subject: Re: [IRCA] Oregon Cliff (Cape Perpetua) Ultralight TP's and DU's for 
8-19
>
>
>It's hard to believe that we were listening on the same planet Gary, 
>let alone the same coast, though admittedly, I'm quite a way from the 
>open Pacific here.   As I said yesterday, that morning was pretty 
>much the biggest stinker this summer here.
>
>best wishes,
>
>Nick
>
>
>At 09:21 20-08-13, Gary wrote:
>>Hello,
>>
>>      Four wild days of cliff-side DXing on Oregon's Cape Perpetua 
>> finished up in typical fashion yesterday morning as both Asiatic 
>> TP's and DU's showed up in strength, causing snarling mixes on 
>> several frequencies. The Russian longwaves started off the fun 
>> around 1216 with 279-Radio Rossii testing the crunch resistance of 
>> my PL-380, pegging the S/N readout for the duration of a recording. 
>> This was followed by 1566-HLAZ at 1243 with a blistering signal-- 
>> far and away the strongest that I've ever heard them in six years 
>> of DXing. 1593-CNR1 also moved in with good signals around 1238, 
>> following the high-band trend that Dennis noted. But on the cliff, 
>> the Asian TP's had no trouble showing up from 531 to 1593 kHz.
>>      The Japanese big guns moved in with serious force early on 
>> with strong signals on 594, 693, 747, 774 and 828, along with some 
>> fair signals on NHK1 synchro frequencies like 603 and 639. During 
>> the middle of sunrise enhancement (around 1300) the DU regulars 
>> started to move in with some strength, causing snarls and mixes 
>> with the Japanese on certain frequencies (531, 603, 639 and 891). 
>> The NHK big guns stuck around for almost all of sunrise 
>> enhancement, although the Aussie big guns 576-2RN and 774-3LO 
>> managed some very potent signals themselves after 1330 (with 
>> 576-2RN pegging the PL-380 S/N with an awesome signal of its own at 
>> 1335). Several DU's were the sole survivors after the Asians faded 
>> around 1400, with 639-2HC and 891-5AN still strong enough for easy 
>> copy around 1405.
>>      The Cape Perpetua cliff propagation during this 4-day 
>> DXpedition was really wacky and wild, with more TP and DU monster 
>> signals (and snarling mixes) than I've ever heard in any ocean 
>> coast trip. The Highway 101 turnoff is located on a curving cliff, 
>> which apparently provides huge amplification for transoceanic 
>> signals from either Asia or the South Pacific, depending upon which 
>> area has the propagation edge. Sometimes (like during the past 2 
>> days) both areas have good propagation-- leading to wild mixes of 
>> Asian and South Pacific signals on several frequencies.
>>
>.....
>
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