Re: [IRCA] WXYG vs. KWMT vs. CBK vs. XEWA

[Todd <todftscytj7707@xxxxxxx>]

They are on today as of 2000 CDT.
Todd.

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neilkaz <neilkaz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>So WXYG isn't on today? I thought I had some rock-ish mx but then KWMT IDed at 2104 CDT tonight and into C&W although I thought they may have been mixing but couldn't tell as weak o/u WAUK. 
>
>Anyhow, this isn't a time of the year where I do any AM DX other than to test out antennas since it is the worst month of the year. Things stink here in the upper midwest between mid May and Mid July, but if you can confirm that they are on 24/7 or even just daytimes I'll try for them.
>
>Also possible on 540 sometimes at night on western antennas (nulls XEWA rather well) is XETX La Ranchera de Paquime
>
>Not to get too far OT, but I've never had TA audio here in IL in June or July I few days ago I tried and the TA BOG was just working as usual to the NW, but only weak hets from 1512 and 1521 near Saudi SR. From WI I've had TA's during those months, but being Lake Michigan frontage means 10-15 dB more signal from them but all I've had is some weak mouth of Med strong stations and a weak Mauritania 783 (lower latitude path so is clearly dark all the way and they stay on often a bit past 8 pm CDT in summer)
>
>73 KAZ Barrington IL noting WSCR IBOC REMAINS OFF :)
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Todd <todftscytj7707@xxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Jun 27, 2011 7:57 PM
>>To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America <irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Subject: Re: [IRCA] WXYG vs. KWMT vs. CBK vs. XEWA
>>
>>Hi all,
>>
>> WXYQ has been off for the last 2-3 weeks. When the are on, I have only heard them on during the day. Their day pattern is a sideways 8. They cover all of the twin cities that dominates. However, KWMT manages to come in u/WXYQ in the burnsville and the rest of the S/SW metro. The same goes for KCRO u/ KBHR. KWMT  does not make it past the dwtn's of msp/stp.
>>Very little overlapping of these two stations.
>>Until this last season, XEWA has not been heard for awhile.
>>In the winter months I have heard CBK all day at times.
>>Hope that paints a better picture.
>>Todd 
>>
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>>
>>Rick Dau <drummer1965usa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>I hadn't even known that WXYG wasn't on the air yet until I opened up my inbox 
>>>this morning and saw Paul Walker's original post on 'em. 
>>>
>>>
>>>Some thoughts: I have no idea how the FCC even let a station in mid-Minnesota 
>>>on 540 in the first place, when KWMT and CBK are so near and stations on 540 get 
>>>out like gangbusters.  And I especially can't see how WXYG is able to throw 
>>>virtually all of its night power in the direction of Fort Dodge, when they 
>>>SHOULD be protecting KWMT at night. 
>>>
>>>  
>>>Regarding XEWA, I haven't heard them ONCE since starting a new logbook at my 
>>>South Omaha QTH this past September.  At night it's CBK when the Quantum loop is 
>>>pointed NW-SE and KWMT when it's 90 degrees from that.   
>>>
>>>
>>>KWMT gets out amazingly well to the south -- Glenn Hauser sez he hears them 
>>>daytimes 365 days a year in northern Oklahoma.  But, to the north, it's a 
>>>totally different story.  When I drove to Winnipeg in August 2008, KWMT was 
>>>still there, albeit not real strong, in Redwood Falls, Minnesota.  By the time I 
>>>got to Fargo, however, it was all CBK. 
>>>
>>>
>>>Once upon a time (say, early 1960s and before), KWMT held the honor of having 
>>>the largest daytime coverage of any AM station in the U.S.  Nowadays, I'd put 
>>>them 3rd behind both KFYR-550 (whose terrestrial signal I was listening to 
>>>through most of this morning for their coverage on the flooding in Minot) and 
>>>WNAX-570. 
>>>
>>>
>>>And CBK easily gets the honor of largest dayime coverage of any AM station in 
>>>North America. 
>>>
>>>     
>>>73,
>>>Rick Dau
>>>South Omaha, Nebraska
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>>From: Earl Higgins <earlthenut@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>Sent: Mon, June 27, 2011 10:41:27 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [NRC-AM] WXYG 540 Sauk Rapids, MN
>>>
>>>That nighttime pattern surprises me, but I forgot Fort Dodge isn't entitled to 
>>>nighttime protection. Ouch, that's got to be quite a clash in KWMT's secondary 
>>>coverage areas (Storm Lake, Ames), especially since they ALSO null to the north.
>>>
>>>2011/6/27 Doug Smith <w9wi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>>>The daytime pattern has lobes roughly due east (larger) and west (smaller). 
>>>> Looks like there's a null, though not particularly deep, in the direction
>>>>of Saskatchewan.  (where the monster signal of CBK is on 540)  There's another 
>>>>daytime null due south, probably for KWMT.
>>>>
>>>>The nighttime pattern is a circle, tangential to the transmitter site and 
>>>>radiating everything south-southwest.  KWMT is a Class D station, not
>>>>entitled to nighttime protection -- it looks like nearly all the protection is 
>>>>to the Canadian border.
>>>>
>>>>I would imagine WXYG causes considerable interference to CBK in areas in the 
>>>>U.S. that used to get a decent CBK signal.  These days, Canadian stations
>>>>are not entitled to interference protection outside Canada. (and vice-versa; 
>>>>Canada can license stations that would interfere with U.S. operations, as
>>>>long as all the interference happens in Canada.  In practice this hasn't been 
>>>>happening on AM but there are plenty of examples on FM.)
>>>>
>>>>I'm sure WXYG would not exist if we were still protecting the signals of 
>>>>Canadian stations in the U.S..
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>
>>>>Doug Smith W9WI
>>>>Pleasant View, TN  EM66
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