Re: [IRCA] longwires--elevated or not?
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Re: [IRCA] longwires--elevated or not?



Thankyou sir... I like the sound of that.
Especially when the sign says no over night parking...

Thank you.....

Derek Vincent

Vmedia360.......everywhere

On Jul 6, 2009, at 1:33 PM, Russ Edmunds <wb2bjh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Generally speaking, one rule of thumb says that a BOG of 500' has the gain directivity and nearly the gain of a 1500' antenna run at 10-15'. that, combined with the ( usually ) easier job of deploying and removing a BOG, I would opt for that.


Russ Edmunds
Blue Bell, PA ( 360' ASL )
[15 mi NNW of Philadelphia]
40:08:45N; 75:16:04W, Grid FN20id
<wb2bjh@xxxxxxxxx>
FM: Yamaha T-80 & Onkyo T-450RDS w/ APS9B @15'
AM: Modified Sony ICF 2010 barefoot


--- On Mon, 7/6/09, Derek Vincent <eargazimm@xxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Derek Vincent <eargazimm@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [IRCA] longwires--elevated or not?
To: "Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America" <irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >
Date: Monday, July 6, 2009, 2:36 PM
Well thanks for the info.. Well
from my campsite I have room for 3 500ft bogs or 3 over the
shoulder 1000 ft unterminated long wires . I'm just worried
about the signals out of the east. Which one do think would
be better??? I can't get much closer to the water without
falling off the cliff so the TP signals are strong. It's the
unwanted eastern stuff that I'm worried about.. The k9 works
ok, but the lobes are to wide..

Thank you.....

Derek Vincent

Vmedia360.......everywhere

On Jul 5, 2009, at 4:15 PM, "Steve Ratzlaff" <steveratz@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Hi Derek,
My longwires are elevated in the traditional fashion;
generally 10-15 feet off the ground, using the standard 3:1
turns ratio matching transformer, with isolated coax from
the longwire. www.dxing.info has several very good articles
on matching transformers and related antenna info.
I use Home Depot 500 foot spools of THHN stranded #14
wire, splicing the ends as needed to get 1600 feet for the
E/W wire. And since dead trees usually break the wire
several times a year, there are probably 10 or more splices
in the current antenna. Any gauge wire will work since there
is no current flow in the antenna, but wire strength is a
big factor for permanent installations. I used #14 as a
compromise between the stronger but more expensive #12, and
a narrower gauge that would break easier. I use poles over
exisiting fences where there are no trees for supports, and
use trees the rest of the run.
IRCA list member Neil Kazaross in Illinois is an
expert on using terminated wire antennas lying on the ground
(BOGs--Beverage on Ground)--he's developed fairly
close-spaced parallel-wire BOGs with one wire somewhat
shorter than the other. He'd be the one to ask if you were
interested in such antennas. Generally, BOGs are more
directional and have weaker output than a traditional
elevated longwire or Beverage antenna.
73,
Steve

----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Vincent"
<eargazimm@xxxxxxx>
To: "Mailing list for the International Radio Club of
America" <irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: [IRCA] NE Oregon TPs, Sunday poor


Is your wire elevated or is it on the ground??? Is
your 1600 all one  wire or is it pieces put
together???

Thank you.....

Derek Vincent

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