Re: [IRCA] Monster PVC-Frame Passive Loops
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Re: [IRCA] Monster PVC-Frame Passive Loops



Hi Chris,
 
Thanks for your interest in the PVC-frame passive loop project, and I'm  
sure that you had lots of fun making your 4' altazimuth loop PVC frame (and  
discovered a few of the tricks I learned). Actually, my original plan was to  
make only two or three loops of modest size, but after settling on a 
standard  design (and discovering how these PVC loops work like gangbusters for 
DXing), I  couldn't resist making seven of them, all the way up to the 10 foot 
diagonal  size.
 
It's very important to choose the suitable PVC diameter to match the size  
of the loop being constructed, since tubing which is too small will result 
in a  sagging loop (and sagging DX performance). One of the major lessons I 
discovered  was to carefully test out a frame's ability to support its own 
weight (and the  weight of the wire) before proceeding to glue it up. My final 
recommendations  (and the tubing diameters actually used for the seven 
loops) are as  follows:
 
18" (side) Tabletop  Model              3/4 inch PVC
24'" Tabletop/ Rotating  Model        3/4 inch PVC
3' Rotating  Model                         1  inch PVC
4' Rotating  Model                         1  inch PVC
5' Rotating  Model                          1 inch PVC
6' Rotating  Model                          1 1/4 inch PVC
7.5' Rotating  Model                       1 1/4 inch PVC
 
The PVC fittings for all the above diameters (crosses, elbows, tees and  
caps) were all available at my local Lowe's store, along with precut 5'  
sections of all the tubing I needed, in each diameter. The project was like  a 
DXer's dream, with the antenna frames extremely easy to construct, and  
providing a completely symmetrical mounting system for optimum  sensitivity and 
nulling ability in each individual loop size.
 
Each of these PVC loops is easily rotated for nulling by placing the loop  
in a support frame, as pictured in the photos on Ultralightdx. The  
diamond-configured frame rotates on an unglued "tee" fitting, which is inserted  
into the center pipe of the support structure. The support structure's center  
pipe is cut to be about one inch longer than the two side pipes, making it 
easy  to tilt the entire loop for increased nulling simply by shifting  the 
support frame's center pipe along the ground, in the desired  direction.
 
The DXing performance of each individual loop has certainly been all I  
could have hoped for! I had several weak TIS stations down at the noise level  
that had escaped identification for weeks, but the 2' PVC loop provided 
positive  identification of all of them within a couple of days (with the $9 
Tecsun R9012,  no less). The 7.5 foot (side) PVC loop brings in the notoriously 
weak Yakima, WA  TIS and eastern Oregon NOAA stations on 1610 kHz at night  
(frequently even near the overload level) on the R9012.
 
Thanks again for your comments, and it will be lots of fun to write the  
full PVC Loop article with construction details. Good luck also on your 4'  
altazimuth loop!
 
73, Gary DeBock
 
 
            
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 4/13/2009 10:16:39 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:

Hi  Gary,

Very nice PVC loop designs! What diameter of PVC did you use for  the frame?
Are these loops rotatable or tiltable?

I'm currently  building a 4 foot altazimuth PVC loop. The PVC frame is
finished and the  base (made of wood) is finished. The only major things 
left
to do are cut  grooves in the PVC pieces for the wire, wire the frame, and
interface to  the base. You used PVC elbows to extend the wires out away 
from
the main  frame. Several plumbing stores have saddle tees (looks like
half-pieces of  PVC pipe) http://www.plumbingworld.com/pvcsaddletee.html ,
for example.  This would mount directly on the PVC frame (on top of the 4
arms of the  loop frame). Then, one can attach a grooved PVC pipe piece on
the saddle  for the wire, probably using epoxy. There are other options for
the saddle  tee like threaded pieces combined with an adapter. I'll send a
photo if  you'd like.

Once the above loop is done, I plan on mounting an E100 (or  another
portable/ultralight) on a piece of lexan that would be placed  inside the
loop frame somewhere, mounted with tie wraps. A 6' earphone  extension cable
would plug into the E100 and then earphones after  that.

What sort of DX are you hearing with your PVC loop antennas? How  does the 
DX
compare with your other antennas? I can't wait to read your  article (and
about the great DX these loops pull  in...hi).

73,

Chris

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Subject: [IRCA] Monster PVC-Frame  Passive Loops


Hello All,

The annual "March Madness" antenna  project here this year was to construct
a series of tuned passive loops,  using ultra-cheap PVC tubing and fittings.
Loops of 18", 2', 3', 4', 5', 6'  and 7.5' (side dimensions) were
assembled, using PVC diameters suitable to  support each size without any
sagging.

One of the primary design  considerations was to isolate the loops from the
support structures as much  as possible, to provide clean electromagnetic
reception patterns. Perfect  symmetry of the coils was also an important
objective, with equally-spaced  wire slots cut in each of four frame tubes,
and
the tuning capacitor  located exactly at the loop ends, with the far end of
the  loop routed  through a short PVC tube to the capacitor. These steps 
seem
to have   provided maximum sensitivity and nulling ability for each  loop
size.

Lightweight, rugged, waterproof PVC was found to be an  ideal frame material
for tuned passive loops, and of course, it is also  ultra-cheap  (even in
the larger sizes). The 7.5 foot (side) monster  loop frame cost all of  $35
to
build, and the cost of the  "tabletop" 18-inch model frame was about  $7.
The 7.5 foot (10 foot  diagonal) PVC loop does require some serious real
estate for construction,  however, and is certainly not recommended if you
have a
shaky  relationship with any of your neighbors :>)

Photos of the 18", 2'  and 7.5' PVC loops have been uploaded to the
Ultralightdx Yahoo group site,  and are available upon request. An article
containing full construction  details for these new PVC-frame loops should
be
written shortly, which  hopefully will provide a new, inexpensive option for
boosting the DXing  ability of any receiver.

73, Gary  DeBock





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