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Re: [IRCA] Weather and Other Emergencies



The thing that frightens me the most in a "minor" emergency is how
people react to it in the first place.  Here in St. Louis in the past
couple of years have had some close calls (major wind storm knocked out
power to "basically" the entire metro area followed by a severe winter
storm 6months later and a tornado scare another 6months after that).

1. Wind Storm: Knocked out my power for 4 days compared to 2 weeks for
some.  This one came without much warning and that was the wake up call
for me.  Huge sycamore, oaks and other large trees snapped like
toothpicks all over the area falling on houses (like mine)and power
lines causing mass confusion.  Emergency services had and still have
nothing when it comes to interops, even knocked out power to some city
emergency communication centers.  Tensions ran high and civilians even
began threatening the linesmen when they arrived to fix the lines.

2. Ice/Winter Storm: This one came with 4 or five day notice.  Once
again most did not heed the warning and sat powerless and heatless for
days.  Most waited until after the storm hit to obtain supplies.

3. Tornado: Tornado watch for most of the afternoon and when one finally
touched down (F1 I believe) in the middle of the city most ignored it
like it was a strong storm and others did not even know it had happened;
even the next day when a story ran about it in the newspaper.

NIMBY.  Not in my backyard, it won't/can't happen to me, etc.  This is
how the majority of the population thinks.  "IT'S WHEN IT HAPPENS, not
if it happens."  I signed up for "CERT" emergency training.  After the
New Madrid decides to wake up, most of St. Louis will be cut off from
the rest of the region because of all the old and unreliable bridges (MO
river to the north, MS river to the east, and the Meramec River to the
west and south eventually connecting to the Missisippi) and I'm not
going to mention "WHEN" the lock and dams fail all along MO/MS rivers.
All major interstate highways/major roads, train traffic, and river
traffic will come to a complete stop.  Most people do not have a weather
radio not to speak of emergency radio and emergency plan for the family.
"We don't have to worry though, the Federal government will help us."
Where were they for the poor people of New Orleans?

Most of the population suffers from the following: laziness and
ignorance.  I'm pretty sure that many of us in this newsgroup are
prepared for "minor" emergencies, but how would any of us (including me)
make out if we did have to fend for our own for 2 or 3 weeks?

My pitiful little suggestion, "take a lesson from the Swiss;" SELF
RELIANCE.  That's my 2 bits.

73, Woz  StLDX

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: KGA 1510 app (Patrick Martin)
   2. Re: TPs for 09-23-07 (Patrick Martin)
   3. Re: Cheater term and the FCC - reposting of comments
      (Chuck Hutton)
   4. Re: books amgazines (k4ape)
   5. Re: Weather and other emergencies (Donald K. Kaskey)
   6. Re: Cheater term and the FCC (Donald K. Kaskey)
   7. New RNZI Radio Heritage Documentaries (Geralyn Hollerman)
   8. Re: How things sound to me since 9/14 (Joe Miller, KJ8O)
   9. Re: Cheater term and the FCC (Gil Stacy)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 00:59:41 -0700
From: mwdxer@xxxxxxxxx (Patrick Martin)
Subject: Re: [IRCA] KGA 1510 app
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Scott,

Thanks for the link. I ran off a copy of KGA's proposed pattern. I was
surprised to see they are still going to put a lot of signal to the SW,
in the direction of the Bay area. I expected a tighter null and more
signal directed North towards Spokane. Tonight earlier I was getting KGA
at S9+55DB on peaks, often the strongest thing on the dial. This is off
the Eastern beverage.  The strongest local, KAST is S9+38 DB!. I just
checked and KGA is still peaking S9+45 DB, probably due to the high A &K
index, being down a bit, if you can call it that KGA is to the NE. But
with the proposed change to 15 KW and the pattern is not that different
than it is now, as there is still a lot of power to the SW, I see the S
Meter peaking at S9+30 or 35 DB, mybe more,  so it will still hog the
channel here. A bit of a disappointment. 

73,

Patrick

Patrick Martin
KAVT Reception Manager



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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 01:44:56 -0700
From: mwdxer@xxxxxxxxx (Patrick Martin)
Subject: Re: [IRCA] TPs for 09-23-07
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Walt,

Glad you guys had some fantastic DX there. Sao Tome was enough to excite
any DXer. That is amazing stuff. I fiqured you would do well with the
TAs as Nick heard a lot in Victoria. Not great here, but I got that
blockage to the NE. That will be some great report when you get it done.
Have a safe trip back.

73,

Patrick

Patrick Martin
KAVT Reception Manager



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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:32:28 -0700
From: "Chuck Hutton" <charlesh3@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Cheater term and the FCC - reposting of comments
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And I'll bet those were not direct posts but rather isolated forwards to
other lists, right??

Chuck

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Newest I could find were two posts from yesterday.  Give it time...

Chuck Hutton <charlesh3@xxxxxxx> wrote:  
I'd love to be proven wrong by having you show me a Google hit for this
post
10 minutes after it appears. 


       
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 23:46:47 -0400
From: "k4ape" <k4ape@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [IRCA] books amgazines
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> Absolutely - I'm about 60% complete with my Broadcasting Yearbook
> collection from 1936 forward. I have some, but far from a complete
run,
> of Broadcasting from the earlier years, and a nearly-complete run from
> about 1989 to the present. WRTH from the late sixties to present,
> complete. Partial set of White's logs. Pop'Comm near complete from
> 1983-present...etc, etc.

I have been collecting this stuff most of my life. aLL 21 YEARS OF IT.

AMATEUR RADIO
I have all QST's from 1936 to 2000. Before 1936 I have some from the
20's 
but they are not complete. I have ARRL Radio Amateur Handbooks from 1930
to 
2000; Though not complete before 1950. The 1930 issue was given to me by
my 
high school english teacher.

POPULAR ELECTRONIS and ELECTRONIC ILLUSRATED
My collection begins with the December 1954 issue. Yes, I bought it in
1954. 
For years I keep all the issues till I joined the navy, (1960) mom
thought I 
would never need such items again and dumped alot of it. But have most
from 
65 to 73.

RADIO BOOKS
I have studied the history of television, and have books from the 20's,
30's 
and 40's about the working and building and repair of radio and TV's. I 
learned radio from a book "Radio Physics Course" @1933. Still have the
book.

WRTH
I had, at one time, WRTH from the 60's up to 2000. At one house we were 
renting, the storage roof leaked, and I lost most of the WRTH's before
1980. 
By the time I had discovered the mess, they were covered with mold. They
now 
reside in the Cleveland, TN land fill.


Plus tons of other radio stuff that I would like to sale or trade for.

Willis
Old Fort, TN
 



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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:56:32 -0700
From: "Donald K. Kaskey" <kaskeyfamily@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Weather and other emergencies
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Ah, but besides the heat in the summer Redding gets moocho rain in the
winter.  Next to the far NW Coast (Eureka and environs) Redding gets the
most rain in California.

Don K.




Michael Hawkins wrote:

> The entire central coast area is affected by the San Andreas Fault,
which runs one range of hills away for the entire length of the area
you're talking about.  Parkfield (the most active and most documented
earthquake location in the US is about midway between SF and LA.  A few
years ago, Paso Robles had a big earthquake.  Further south towards
Santa Barbara doesn't have many, but when they do, they're pretty good
size.
>
>   Redding (northern edge of Central Valley) has extreme heat in the
summer.  When its hot in the valley, Redding is always *THE* hottest
location.  The winter is nicer to Redding than the rest of the valley
though, as they don't have a lot of fog problems.  If they do, it wil be
ice fog.
>
>   Mike
>
> Russ Edmunds <wb2bjh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> --- Michael Hawkins wrote:
>
> > Russ,
> >
> > I'd still like to know where that prime real estate is that's not
> > earthquake-prone. The only place I can think of with any chance of
> > fitting that description is Orange County, but that's a place I am
> > more than happy to avoid.
> >
>
> No way it's in Orange County !
>
> Think Central Coast, from somewhat below SF down to about Santa
> Barbara.
>
> Actually, the Northern part of the Central Valley isn't bad either,
> just doesn't fit into the 'prime real estate' category.
>
> Russ Edmunds
> Blue Bell, PA ( 360' ASL )
> [15 mi NNW of Philadelphia]
> 40:08:45N; 75:16:04W, Grid FN20id
>
> FM: Yamaha T-80 & Onkyo T-450RDS w/ APS9B @15'
> AM: Hammarlund HQ-150 & 4' FET air core loop
>
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 23:47:34 -0700
From: "Donald K. Kaskey" <kaskeyfamily@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Cheater term and the FCC
To: Neil Kazaross <neilkaz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,	Mailing list for the
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KRXR is generally the dominant station on 1480 at night.  Once in awhile
they turn it off for a short time but then on they come again-night
after night.
As you say Neil, I could go on and on about a lot of stations.

Don



Neil Kazaross wrote:

> Lots of Spanish speaking stns are abusive of the FCC night rules. Do
they
> think no one in the FCC speaks Spanish ? A couple seasons ago, I
managed to
> dig KRXR out of the mess with SS KCZZ/others on a superb high band
night to
> the west, so here's a case where this "cheating: presented a DX
opportunity,
> but they must really ruin 1480 out in the NW 1/4 of our country.
>
> 73 KAZ Barrington IL
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Hawkins" <downsized99@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <w4opw@xxxxxxxxx>; "Mailing list for the International Radio Club
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> America" <irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 10:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Cheater term and the FCC
>
> > But we really shouldn't talk about KRXR - 1480 - Gooding, Idaho,
should
> > we?
> >
> >  Mike
> >
> > "Powell E. Way III W4OPW" <w4opw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >  There are a few stations that deserve to be called
> > cheaters. These are always small non cluster stations.
> > They infact, ought to change their format to all
> > Cheaters all the time....and play only songs with the
> > word Cheat or Cheater in the title.
> >
> > Jingle Always cheating.....all the
> > time.....
> >
> >
> > Powell
> >
> > NNNN
> > POP email is powell at backroads DOT net
>
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 04:40:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geralyn Hollerman <lynnhollerman@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [IRCA] New RNZI Radio Heritage Documentaries
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For anyone interested:

--
New Radio Heritage Documentaries

The Radio Heritage Foundation (www.radioheritage.net) has released
two new radio heritage documentaries through Radio NZ International.

The first of these is currently available as a podcast at
www.rnzi.com (Other Audio/Mailbox) and is a rare recording of the
1963 Top 20 radio show from 2ZC Hawkes Bay in New Zealand.

The documentary comes complete with music, station IDs for 2ZC, local
adverts and typical sound effects of the period.

The documentary is linked with the article 'From Hawkes Bay to
Replay' at the Radio Heritage Foundation website
www.radioheritage.net which contains photos of the DJ and the panel
operator and a personal story behind the scenes of the 2ZC Top 20
show.

On Monday, October 1 2007, RNZI broadcasts a second documentary
featuring the history of Pacific radio during the 1941-1950 period.

This covers the broadcasting scene around the region during WWII, the
occupation of Japan, and the reconstruction period for SE Asia, the
Philippines and other locations.

The documentary includes classic Pacific music melodies of the
period, and also covers new stations in Samoa, Fiji and other
colonies of the time, as well as reviewing broadcasting from
Australia and NZ during wartime censorship.

After broadcast during the Mailbox program on RNZI, this documentary
is also available via podcast at www.rnzi.com.

The Radio Heritage Foundation is a non-profit charitable trust.
Hundreds of pages of articles about Pacific radio and searchable
Pacific radio databases are available for free at
www.radioheritage.net.

Coming soon at www.radioheritage.net - Shanghai Radio in 1941. 
--

Lynn.
Lafayette, LA
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 05:57:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Joe Miller, KJ8O" <ab8yp@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [IRCA] How things sound to me since 9/14
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Hi everyone,

I've done a few quick bandscans since 9-14, and the
damage is not as bad as originally anticipated.

Due to both WJR and WWJ running 24/7 IBOC, I've
completely lost 4 adjacent channels (750, 770, 940, &
960).

Partial damage includes WLW & WFDF (a local Disney
outlet) but with a little effort using SSB or off
channel tuning, I can still hear 690, 710, 900 & 920.

I don't like the loss of 750 & 770 in particular as I
have some very good DX catches in the past, but at
least I'll still be able to DX.


LXXIII de Joe, KJ8O



       
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 09:03:22 -0400
From: "Gil Stacy" <gilstacy@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Cheater term and the FCC
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Bill  Harms said:
 "I mentioned to him that WOR was getting clobbered by its neighbors on
700
and 720 when they turn
on THEIR IBOC. I was not complaining about WOR itself running IBOC."

I had miscontrued his reported remarks as if he didn't care if his IBOC
signal interferred with other stations, and not that he didn't mind if
his signal was interferred with outside of his market.  In that regard,
and
only in that regard, he is formally stripped of all rank, title,
privileges,
epaulets, stipends and symbols bestowed upon him previously as "Earl of
Arrogance."

Gil NN4CW


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