Re: [IRCA] To Les-- (Semi-Monthly QSL Rant)

["Paul B. Walker, Jr." <walkerbroadcasting@xxxxxxxxx>]

To compare Les, a hard working man whos been in the industry before to this
17 year old is wrong.



On 4/12/07, David Faulkner <dfdf@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> WJLB 1400, Detroit, used to have George Bryson signing its QSL's.  George
> was a slightly crazy 17-year old IRCA member whose "handle" was
> "J-Evil."  I
> knew IRCA'ans at the time who said they would never consider a QSL signed
> by
> him worth anything.
>
> 73s
> David
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: irca-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:irca-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Paul B. Walker, Jr.
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:58 PM
> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] To Les-- (Semi-Monthly QSL Rant)
>
> I think the DX'ers not be valid or hold less water when issued by the
> IRCA/NRC rather then ther station need to get a life.
>
> A QSL card is a QSL card. I'd rather have one, then none at all.
>
> The QSL Manager (if I did a DX test) would be given my program log
> including
> times/items played so he could accurately verify reception.
>
> If DX'ers are looking to PISS OFF Station Managers like myself and Chief
> Engineers who stay up till 2AM in the morning to graciously do something
> we
> are IN NO WAY REQUIRED OR REIMBURSED for.. claiming QSL's issued by the
> club
> aren't as valid, or evebn valid i nthe first place is a sure fire way to
> do
> it.
>
> If it would make all you whiners and complainers feel better, I'll hire
> Les
> for $1 and make him an official station employee of WABV Raido, so the QSL
> is therefore valid! WOULD THAT BE OK WITH YOU?
>
> If some of you don't like the way things are handled, GO FIND ANOTHER
> HOBBY!!
>
> Paul Walker
> WABV-Am 1590
> Abbeville, SC
> www.wabv1590.com
> www.walkerbroadcasting.com
> www.myspace.com/walkerbroadcasting
>
>
> On 4/11/07, Les Rayburn <les@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > First of all, a big "Thank you" to both Willis and Patrick for their
> > kind offer
> > to take over the QSL chores. It is much appreciated, but I'll have to
> > decline (at least
> > for now)
> >
> > To Patrick Griffith, please do send that cassette tape to me. It is no
> > trouble at all to review it and verify your reception. I ask only two
> > things, that you "cue" the tape to just before the best reception
> > and that you include an SASE for the QSL Card. For that matter,
> > please send recordings for any tests that we've conducted that you need
> > verified. It's not a burden at all...if folks follow the instructions.
> >
> > And now to clarify the whole issue a bit:
> >
> > 1. The reason that I won't pass the QSL torch just yet is the need to
> > build confidence in these types of QSL's. Michael Procop (and quite a
> > few others) have expressed that they do not consider QSL cards issued
> > by the NRC/IRCA to be valid (or as valid) as one issued
> > from the stations directly.
> >
> > For the record, I won't accept any report and in fact, have rejected
> > several that were incomplete, lacking in detail or obviously just
> > false. I listen carefully to each recording and when there is doubt,
> > I've set up a system of "checks and balances" where my decision can
> > be reviewed by volunteer Brandon Jordan.
> >
> > By doing so, I hope to make these QSL's seen as "valid" by those who
> > collect verifications. In order to build that trust, I feel I need to
> > maintain the quality control for now.
> >
> > 2. I do plan to make the rules simple and standard from now on. Those
> > who don't follow them will get a simple "Sorry, no QSL until you send
> > in the report as requested". But I don't want to discourage anyone
> > from submitting a report. Reading Patrick Griffith's e-mail really
> > made me feel bad...and I apologize if my complaints have discouraged
> > anyone from reporting.
> >
> > If I can read it, or hear it and verify it, I will. As a fellow DX'er
> > I don't mind the extra effort, but
> > I do think it's unreasonable to ask a station or engineer to make any
> > effort at all to verify. YOU WANT THE CARD, YOU DO THE WORK. That
> > seems simple enough to me.
> >
> > If the station wants it via e-mail---you better find a way to send an
> > e-mail. If they want it sent via smoke signals, I suggest you learn
> > to build a fire. Simple. By simply signing and returning the card,
> > they're doing you a favor. Don't ever forget that.
> >
> > 3. In terms of the rules for test verifications, they're going to be
> > simple.
> >
> > A. E-mail is first choice with an MP3 recording of the test attached.
> > B. Other file attachments such as .wav, .ra, or .aiff are acceptable.
> > C. E-mails with log details and no recordings are acceptable.
> > D. Postal reports are fine. If you include a recording, we'd prefer
> > to receive a CD, or cassette
> > tape that is cued just before the time of best reception.
> > E. An SASE must be included to receive the card. Donations, dollar
> > bills, stamps, etc. are not acceptable. An SASE is a must.
> >
> > My parents raised me to be respectful of other people. And these
> > rules are a simple way of insuring that whoever is doing the
> > verification can do it quickly, accurate, and with a minimum of
> > effort. That is showing respect for that person's efforts to provide
> > something that you want.
> > It's common horse sense too.
> >
> > =====================================
> > 73,
> >
> > Les Rayburn, N1LF
> > NRC/IRCA Broadcast Test Coordinator
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Apr 11, 2007, at 2:21 AM, Patrick Griffith, N0NNK / WPE9HVW wrote:
> >
> > > Willis said: I would accept any report, even written in crayon, as
> > > long
> > > as it was correct. I can now send out the QSL's in the snail mail or
> > > e-mail.
> > > //////
> > > Willis and all;  I have sadly missed out on several recent test QSLs
> > > because the only format I have available for recording is cassette
> > > tape.
> > > After previously discussing this with Les, I have avoided sending
> > > him my
> > > cassette recordings because I understand what a burden it is for him.
> > > Believe me, as a MW QSL hound for almost 40 years, this self restraint
> > > has been difficult for me. But as the QSL manager for a number of
> > > stations over the years, and the coordinator of several previous
> > > tests,
> > > I fully understand what a burden this is for Les. As an example, I
> > > presently have a great recording of the recent UT test that I
> > > reluctantly did not submit for a QSL. I'm not complaining and I don't
> > > want to steal anyone's thunder. But let it be known that I too
> > > would be
> > > willing to volunteer my help if needed.
> > >
> > > Patrick Griffith, Westminster CO
> > > Broadcast Technician
> > > NRC Broadcasting - Denver
> > > http://community.webtv.net/N0NNK/
> > > http://community.webtv.net/AM-DXer/
> > >
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