Re: [IRCA] [ABDX] Re: Big tonal mystery nationwide on 1610
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Re: [IRCA] [ABDX] Re: Big tonal mystery nationwide on 1610



Has someone taken the approximate bearings that folks have posted and 
tried to do a rough triangulation? This might narrow things down a 
little.

Jim Pogue
Memphis, TN

P.S. BTW, rough bearing from Memphis last night was about 80 degrees.

----- Original Message -----
From: chris and anne <tantwo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 10:33 am
Subject: Re: [IRCA] [ABDX] Re: Big tonal mystery nationwide on 1610
To: ABDX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Mailing list for the International Radio 
Club of America <irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

> Hey all....I just phoned Kintronics....and they said it was not 
> them. They have done no on the air testing in the last 24 
> hours.Also, I agree with Adam Myrow.......This has a slight Deja 
> Vu feel to it....I remember a similar situation about 2 years ago 
> that went unsolved. BTW, the tone was faintly audible here in 
> northern S.C. until about 0930 EST .  Now gone!!     Chris Johnson 
>   K4CME
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Jerry Lenamon 
>  To: ABDX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>  Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 10:49 AM
>  Subject: [ABDX] Re: Big tonal mystery nationwide on 1610
> 
> 
>  I wonder if Chris Johnson guessed right. After plotting the 
>  reported bearings from all over the country the most likely 
>  location is the Appalachian area of TN/VA/NC. The reports 
>  don't all agree but most of them do. Kintronics has a 
>  Bristol, TN mailing address. 
> 
>  Jerry Lenamon, Waco Texas 
> 
>  --- In ABDX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "wghauser" <wghauser@...> wrote:
>  >
>  > Tone test on 1610 now? Glen[n], I just discovered a carrier on 
> 1610 
>  > kHz with a 1000 Hz test tone. I am in Columbus Ohio. It fades 
> a 
>  bit, 
>  > have any ideas? (Chuck Adkins, 0118 UT Nov 29, DX LISTENING 
> DIGEST) 
>  > 
>  > At 2130 EST, I also heard the tone. And it STRONG!!! Slight 
> fading, 
>  > but stays around an S-9 on the Drake. Someone getting ready to 
> come 
>  > on the air???? Willis Monk, Old Fort, TN, IRCA via DXLD) 
>  > 
>  > Getting it --- not sure what it is. 73 KAZ (Neil Kazaross, 
>  > Barrington IL, 0232 UT Nov 29, IRCA via DXLD)
>  > 
>  > I had the same tone here in northern South Carolina between 5 
> PM 
>  and 
>  > 6PM, with some QSB, but dominant on the freqency. Isuzu SUV 
> radio 
>  in 
>  > the Walmart parking lot while the XYL shopped (Chris Johnson, 
>  K4CME, 
>  > IRCA via DXLD)
>  > 
>  > Bearings, anyone? Seems N/S from here on the first cuts (Gerry 
>  > Bishop, Niceville, FL, ibid.)
>  > 
>  > Here is a guess with no substantiation. Maybe the guys up in 
> Bluff 
>  > City, TN --- Is it Kintronics?? I've heard them before testing 
>  > antennas, etc. (Chris Johnson, K4CME, S.C., ibid.)
>  > 
>  > Have it here in south N.H. S-9 with some fading. 2155 EST. 
> Wasn`t a 
>  > new one coming on in Canada?? Maybe we will hear from up north.
>  > 73 (Tom Jones, Mason N.H., ibid.)
>  > 
>  > Neil, IRCA & Grupo DX FL Compays - OK, N-S of Gerry B & my NW -
> SE 
>  > lob to general direction of TN per antenna testing theory. 
> Other 
>  > way, my NW-SE & Juan's NNW - SSE line cross around Sancti 
> Spíritus -
> 
>  > Ciego de Ávila area. =Z.= (PV Zecchino, FL, ibid.)
>  > 
>  > Very rough DF from Memphis indicates bearing of about 80 
> degrees 
>  > from my QTH, S9+. (Jim Pogue, Memphis, Tennessee USA, NRD-535, 
> ICF-
>  > 2010 Wellbrook LA5030 loop, attic longwire, Quantum phaser, 
> 0306 UT 
>  > Nov 29, ibid.)
>  > 
>  > I now have the test tone here in Arizona at about S-8 (Bill 
> Block, 
>  > Prescott Valley, AZ, Drake R8, 0309 UT Nov 29, IRCA via DXLD)
>  > 
>  > It's in very strong in Delaware, with some fading (John Cereghin,
>  > Smyrna DE, 0310 UT, ibid.)
>  > 
>  > OK - this now comes in line w/dc's 035 & my 012 - 030ish lobs 
> on 
>  two 
>  > different RDF's. As ever, dc on money, working wrong side of 
> the 
>  > lobs w/Cuba, somewhere N? z (Paul Vincent Zecchino, FL, ibid.)
>  > 
>  > Something here mixed with our local emergency station, WQPX, 
> which 
>  > is just about a mile from here. Just when I thought I would 
> never 
>  > hear anything but that on 1610... Can you QSL a Tone? (Bert New,
>  > Watkinsville, Georgia, Proudly Serving You Since 1964!, ibid.)
>  > 
>  > No stronger than S4 (with heavy fading), but there ... here.
>  > (Bob Coomler, Cloverdale, CA, 0319 UT, ibid.)
>  > 
>  > It's about S5 to S9 up here in Central Alberta, Canada. 
> Stronger to 
>  > the SE on the K9AY (Chris VE6RDC Dorn, 0323 UT Nov 29, ibid.)
>  > 
>  > UNID tone on 590: Also heard strong tone here on/around 590 
> last 
>  > night, but nothing there tonight (11/29 0000 UT and onward). 
>  > However, same thing now heard 0100 and still on 0250 on/around 
>  1610, 
>  > very strong here. Same thing? BTW, it's now 0335, and tone is 
> still 
>  > blasting in on/around 1610. Related to following? 
>  > 
>  > UNID 1670: 11/28 around 1200 and also 1930 past 2025 but gone 
> by 
>  > 2045 re-check, heard music loop, didn't time it but seemed 
> repeated 
>  > every 10 or 15 minutes. All types of music, from classical to 
> lite 
>  > rock to big band to gospel! Absolutley no announcements of any 
>  kind. 
>  > Strong signal here. As strong as only 2 other X-banders heard 
> here 
>  > during day, 1650 WHKT/R. Disney in Portsmouth, VA and 1690 
> WPTX in 
>  > Lexington Park, MD. So if not located here in WV, would 
> definitely 
>  > think in one of nearby states of Virginia, Maryland, or maybe 
>  > Pennsylvania. Anyone have any ideas? (Alex Vranes, Harpers 
> Ferry 
>  WV, 
>  > DX LISTENING DIGEST)
>  > 
>  > As others have reported, 1610.03 kHz with test tone heard here 
> in 
>  SE 
>  > FL. Shows on Spectran as 1, 2, and 3 kHz main frequencies in 
>  > decreasing strength, with sidetones 30, 60, 90 Hz either side 
> of 
>  > each main frequency also at lower levels.
>  > 
>  > Is that what it looks like to others? Another way of saying, 
> are 
>  we 
>  > all hearing the same thing, though it is most likely we are. 
>  > Direction from here NNW/SSE consistent with other reports from 
> the 
>  > area (W. Curt Deegan, Boca Raton, (southeast) Florida, 0325 UT 
> Nov 
>  > 29, [Ten-Tec RX-320D; LFE H-800; GAP DSP; JPS ANS-4], IRCA via 
> DXLD)  > 
>  > Since you asked... :-) It's extremely strong here, and since 
> CJWI 
>  > in Montreal is conspicuous by their absence, I strongly 
> suspect 
>  it's 
>  > them. Meanwhile, I notice a possible format change on CHHA 
> Toronto, 
>  > with a lot of EE talk in between musical numbers, though still 
>  > sprinkled with a bit of SS. PS: big signal from KRND-1630 in 
> WY 
>  here 
>  > tonight... if you need 'em, check it out! -- (Barry McLarnon 
>  VE3JF 
>  > Ottawa, ON, 0327 UT Nov 29, ibid.)
>  > 
>  > While trying for the tone station on 1610, I noted my new 
> local HAR
>  > (or Part 15 or whatever) for CA-125 "South Bay Expressway" has 
>  added 
>  > a second transmitter (seemingly not // the first but the tape 
> loop 
>  is
>  > several minutes long so they could just be a few minutes out 
> of 
>  phase
>  > with each other). I'll see if I can find out how many transmitters
>  > they have and where they are located. 73, (Tim Hall, Chula 
> Vista, 
>  > CA, ibid.)
>  > 
>  > Now S-9 at times and the loop says its due East of me (Bill Block,
>  > Prescott Valley, AZ, Drake R8, Quantum QX Loop, 0333 UT Nov 
> 29, 
>  > ibid.)
>  > 
>  > I have a weak station under the tone, fading in and out, but 
> no way 
>  > to ID them --- the tone is too strong. It's absolutely pegging 
> the 
>  S-
>  > meter on my FRG-7 (John Cereghin, Smyrna DE, 0338 UT, ibid.)
>  > 
>  > This thing is in well over half a country. Is CJWI due to 
> upgrade? 
>  > I'll try a DF in a bit 73 KAZ (Neil Kazaross, IL, 0338 UT, ibid.)
>  > 
>  > F*&%ing loud here in central NJ, about S30. Bearing about 
> 285/105 
>  > here, just a hair north of due west or a hair south of due 
> east. 
>  > Totally kills the channel here, not that I hear much under two 
>  > nearby TIS's anyway (Dave Hochfelder, Highland Park, NJ, Drake 
> R8B, 
>  > Quantum Phaser, Kiwa Loop, Quantum QX Pro Loop, copper pipe 
> loop, 
>  > and CB whip, 0347 UT, ibid.)
>  > 
>  > It's S9+20 right now in New Brunswick at 0402 UT Nov 29 (Wade 
>  Smith, 
>  > New Brunswick, DX LISTENIING DIGEST)
>  > 
>  > Finally had a chance to check it myself at 0405 UT Nov 29. 
> It`s 
>  > about 85 (or 265) degrees from this angle, the strongest 
> signal on 
>  > 1610, less than 1 kHz tone (Glenn Hauser, Enid OK, ibid.)
>  > 
>  > The tone on 1610 is a whopping S7 at 0424 on 29 Nov UTC. I'm 
> using a
>  > N/S longwire. I'm due north of Columbus but it sounds as if 
> the 
>  > signal is stronger than in Columbus, based on Chuck's 
> description. 
>  > 73/Liz (Liz Cameron, Detroit MI, ibid.)
>  >
> 
> 
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