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Re: [IRCA] [nrc-am] Fwd: [CapeDX] Sandy Neck Beach DX 12-29-18



I made some updates to my pips document, but we're back to the same old problems.

I cant send it as an attachment, and there's no place to store it.

Perhaps in 10 or 20 years we can put the 90's style email reflector in the trash can and move to groups.io like everyone else.

Chuck


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We also have a number of recordings on the LBI site. I hadn't seen the movie, but I'm sure it is a good resource.


Russ Edmunds

WB2BJH

Blue Bell, PA

Grid FN20id

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Russ -

For TA stuff. I have a lot of recordings from Newfoundland. If you listened to the Newfoundland movie I posted a few months back, youd agree that it's a great library for pips analysis.

For TP / DU stations, I have rather meticulous notes for Australia, New Zealand, Japan, S Korea, N Korea, China and some Vietnam. I should be covered for those.

Chuck


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We have Europe to a point. Some of the material is inspecific and/or unclear and would take some time listening to overseas SDR's to confirm, however we have one from LBI which we've got recorded but which we haven't been able to find anywhere.


Any TP/DU info we have was pulled from DXM or DXN over the past year or two. Meanwhile I could send you what we have for TP/DU and perhaps you could validate/correct/add to ?


Russ Edmunds

WB2BJH

Blue Bell, PA

Grid FN20id

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I have a list of pipi (frequency, number, duration) although it needs updating and is slanted to TP/DU stations. I could add Europe etc but that might take a little while.


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Actually, this is something Brett Saylor and I have been working on as we've gone through our files from the October LBI DXpedition. We have a partial listing put together but there are so many reports made to IDXD and DXWW where there's no details as to the number, duration or pitch of the pips shown in the reports.


I suppose we could compile the easy/certain ones into a preliminary list for sooner release and work through the rest.


In the meantime though I would like to ask that reporters start including that greater level of detail in their reports going forward.


Russ Edmunds

WB2BJH

Blue Bell, PA

Grid FN20id


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Subject: Re: [IRCA] [nrc-am] Fwd: [CapeDX] Sandy Neck Beach DX 12-29-18

In the age of remote SDRs etc., perhaps this is
irrelevant, but has anyone made a list of what
pips are used by different
Europeans?   Sometimes, pips are all that make it
through, and like knowing the frequency offset,
can hint at what tools (parallel webstream etc.)
might be useful when the signal is a little better next time.

best wishes,

Nick

At 18:35 2019-01-05, Russ Edmunds wrote:
>Re the 630 unknown item, the eleven pips
>suggests that one is R. Timisoara Romania with 6
>short pips. At a different hour, the remainder
>could be from Antena Satelor which is scheduled
>off at the time. Antena 1 Portugal should have 4
>long and 1 short. BBC would be 5 short, 1 long.
>
>
>You might want to let Roy know that the number ,
>length and pitch of the pips can help
>distinguish between multiple sets of pips. Most
>often however it ends up being multiple
>transmitters from Spain on one frequency - not the case on 630.
>
>
>It is also possible, depending on antenna
>direction that pips could be heard from
>Argentina, Brazil, Colombia and Venezuela.
>
>
>Russ Edmunds
>
>WB2BJH
>
>Blue Bell, PA
>
>Grid FN20id
>
>
>________________________________
>From: 'Mark Connelly' via NRC-AM <nrc-am@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 2:01 PM
>To: nrc-am@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; ABDX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [nrc-am] Fwd: [CapeDX] Sandy Neck Beach DX 12-29-18
>
>
>Roy Barstow's report from Barnstable, MA.
>
>
>________________________________
>
>From: roybarstow <CapeDX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Date: Thursday, January 3, 2019
>Subject: [CapeDX] Sandy Neck Beach DX 12-29-18
>To: CapeDX <CapeDX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
>
>12ft.stick w/amp-FDM-S2-K2-3- Sunset 4:20 PM-5 PM temp. 42-wind 12
>
>
>
>      2030              90 Deg.
>
>
>765  Mid-East music - weak.
>
>
>810  Unknown - Slow ballad Mexican song in Spanish. Maybe WMGC TN.
>
>
>837  Iran - Music, talk and maybe an anthem. TNX. to, Bill Whitacre and others
>
>                  from RealDX.
>
>
>981  Algeria - Talk - Fair w/slop.
>
>
>1422  Algeria - Presume w/ vocal and drums.
>
>
>1512  ARS. - Quran at S 6
>
>
>1521  ARS. - SBC - Singing at S 9.
>
>
>1548  Kwt. or MDA. weak w/splatter.
>
>
>1575  Iran and U.A.E.
>
>
>
>      2045              90
>
>
>774  Egypt mixing with Spain.
>
>
>864  Egypt - Koran at S 6-7
>
>
>936  Good mix w/Spain w/CLA. music and others.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>       2100          90
>
>
>        Lots of pips this file
>
>
>666  Portugal - To fair peak w/pips and back into a game // 720
>
>
>702  Algeria - Man talking w/drum in background. Pips woman w/talk. Fair.
>
>
>711  Spain - Cope - Pips, theme music, etc. // 837 mixing w/others. new.
>
>
>720  Portugal - w/game and pips mixing w/Romania or Spain and others.
>
>
>729  Spain - Spanish song into pips then news. // 684 another station under
>
>                     them unknown.
>
>
>756  Romania - Music into pips into news. Another unknown station w/pips.
>
>
>783  Syria - Mixing with Spain.
>
>
>810  Mix - BBC, MKD, and maybe Spain in the logjam.
>
>
>819  Egypt - W/talk. Fair with slop.
>
>
>873  Unknown with Quran.
>
>
>945  Iran - Talk into Mid-East music. Fair.
>
>
>954  CZE. and Spain mixing.
>
>
>990  Spain - Presume with pips in the mix.
>
>
>1080  Spain and WTIC.
>
>
>1125  Spain on top of Belgium.
>
>
>1179  Spain and Romania.
>
>
>1377  Armenia - Good at s/off, 2102.
>
>
>1400  CBG on top.
>
>
>1413  MDA. - Anthem - Thanks to Jc Fontario and Sylvain Naud of RealDX.
>
>
>
>        2115                 90
>
>
>909  Romania - R. Romania - Music in fair under UK.
>
>
>1071  Egypt - With music and last part of file maybe Iran.
>
>
>1098  Spain and later ARS.
>
>
>1179  Romania with music.
>
>
>1323  UK. - Smooth R. Song weak. // 1557
>
>
>1332  Iran on top w/talk. Under them Smooth Radio // 1557.
>
>
>1512  ARS - Quran and maybe Greece or Iran along with the ride.
>
>
>1665  Unknown - Talk and presume a pirate.
>
>
>
>      2130          110
>
>
>945  UK - Smooth R. in fair w/heavy beat music. // 1557. Mixing with
>
>                 Romania // 1332 and 1 more with music.
>
>
>1026  Iran - Fair w/slop.
>
>
>
>      2145          110
>
>
>567  ARS - Quran at S 6-7 over Spain.
>
>
>711  MRC. - On top w/talk and under Romania with music. // 756
>
>
>963  TUN. - Presume with music and slop.
>
>
>1062  Italy - W/talk and mixing w/Iran with light piano music. // 945.
>
>
>1625  Music
>
>
>
>      2200          110
>
>
>630 Unknown - At least 11 pips under WPRO. Have heard this before.
>
>
>900  Spain - With 6 pips under CHML.
>
>
>1080 Spain again, SER - with a splash sound into news w/ WTIC.
>
>
>1089  Algeria - Pips under strong UK. Up for bids. Ha Ha.
>
>
>1116  Italy - Talk, LSB, in fair. // 1062. And mixing w/Spain and another
>
>                     with Mid-East music at end of file.
>
>
>1170  U.A.E. - Mid-East music and man w/ ID. at 2201.
>
>
>1188  Iran - Music good at times , then 3 gongs etc.
>
>
>1593  Romania - On top w/music into pips.- Weak with noise.
>
>
>1630  KCJJ - IA. - On top with community news into ID.
>
>
>
>      2215          90
>
>
>595  MRC. - Very weak with music.
>
>
>783  Syria - 6 bells then woman talking. Good.
>
>
>855  Romania - Song, Money by Pink Floyd. // 1593 - Spain also.
>
>
>909  Romania - // 855-1593 under UK.
>
>
>936  Iran - With talk. I.D. thanks to Dmitry, Mauno Ritola, and C. Hutton of
>
>                   RealDX.
>
>
>1062 First part of file belonged to Italy and changed quickly to Iran.
>
>
>1071  Unknown - Koran or Quran. Either Iran or maybe Egpty
>
>
>1458  Romania - Song, Money- under others. // 1593
>
>
>
>      2230          90
>
>
>918 - Unknown under Spain with music.
>
>
>
>      2300          90
>
>
>630  SS under WPRO - Maybe Ven. with music.
>
>
>810  Macedonia - Pips, theme music, into news. Fair and along with WGY.
>
>
>1630  KCJJ now in strong.
>
>
>That's it for now. Lots of DX at this site and may not travel 1 hour to other
>
>sights. Sandy Neck good for North and East and Menauhant Beach good
>
>for South DX. Sandy Neck soom problem with
>Boston but good nulls from NYC. Manuhant Beach
>problem with NYC but good nulls for Boston. So that's it's.
>
>
>Roy Barstow - Falmouth
>
>
>
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