Re: [IRCA] phasing story

[TONY WARD <tonyward@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks Tim. You have had a pretty exciting few weeks. Well done!!  I am still hearing 720 up and down just after 0300Z. Have checked 650, but finding WSM harder to phase. But it will fall. The 570 channel used to be distinctively offset at 570.011 (IDed in Europe) a few years ago. After the big hiatus from KNR on AM BC  I imagine that may have reverted back to the nominal 570 if they did maintenance. The trace used to be quite easy from here at full zoom on the Perseus, but I do not see it tonight and it was always many many dB below audible. How far apart are your phased BOGâs? I could do that here if I can trust myself (bad back and leg) in the adjacent ravine where I have the Giraffe Farm (antennas). Was able to fix things in the Spring (about 14 antennas here) , but then had another event 2 months ago and not getting around too well at present. Very happy with the PA0RDT/BOG setup, and have a 750 ft lw unterminated running to 165 deg that is my polar antenna, off the backend. I have managed an Alaskan Beacon (nDB), PVQ with this.

Started the DX game in the mid-50âs in Northland NZ. Fiji was a daytimer on mw! Love it still!!

â Tony W


> On Oct 29, 2018, at 20:06, Tim Tromp <kilokat7@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> Tony,
> 
> Congratulations on catching KNR on 720, and welcome to the party!  Don't
> forget to try 650 also, which has been better here on some nights versus
> their 720 outlet.  And then there's the elusive 570 which hasn't happened
> here yet.
> 
> 73,
> Tim Tromp (125 miles away from WGN)
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 10:46 PM TONY WARD <tonyward@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> May I please join the party! With a bow to Sylvain, who started me on the
>> hunt â I spent weeks phasing WGN to oblivion trying for KNR Greenland on
>> 720 after he logged it several years ago â and of course Tim and Kaz with
>> their recent superb achievements, I lit up the under-utilised DXE NCC-1
>> phaser. It has been side-lined here because recording on the Perseus
>> encourages the broadband approach. Hooked my 400 ft Greenland nDB BOG (c.
>> 40 degrees; love BOGâs, they cannot fall down when cometh the ice!) to
>> antenna post A, and the trusty PA0RDT mini whip to B, and experimented with
>> reducing WGN to dust on 720. With some success. At 0218Z, as others have
>> noted, KNR stuck a few distinctive pop tunes into the man talking/woman
>> talking routine that was rumbling along and it was obvious that success was
>> at last at hand.
>> 
>> Now WGN is 400 miles from here, and pretty well 180 degrees from
>> Greenland, but still, it felt pretty goodâ.right up there with logging the
>> 75m signal a few scant weeks before they pulled the plug, back in the day..
>> There is about 2500 ft of creatively draped wire these days in my suburban
>> ravine; in Whitby, 25 miles NW of Toronto downtown, and it feels really
>> good I can tell you. I have bionic knees and donât get around too well
>> right now. I can see future antenna maintenance could be quite a problem.
>> But I am seeing the Aussie and Pacific carriers at dawn (currently 1250Z or
>> so here), and perhaps a few from Asia over the pole will make it this
>> winter with the Solar low. Iceland booms in here on LW (both channels), as
>> do many of the Europeans lately, when conditions are good. What was that
>> wonderful station on 1134 that I heard earlier than 2pm local time a few
>> years ago? And if all that fails, there are those amazing remote listening
>> SDRs from which you can hear the World, as weak, or as strong, as you wish.
>> 
>> â Tony Ward (ZL1AZV, VE3NO etc)
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 29, 2018, at 13:10, Neil Kazaross <neilkaz58@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yep, the S meter is a must for getting the best nulls. You can do it
>>> audibly, but the S meter sure helps.  73 KAZ
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 3:06 PM Jim B <jim01028@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I put larger knobs on my quantum phaser for finer adjustment, but now
>>>> that
>>>>> I use SDR Console for MW dxing, I also use the gain db scale like a
>>>> digital
>>>>> readout to help find the best nulls.   Jim
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Neil Kazaross <neilkaz58@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Nrc-am <
>>>>> Nrc-am@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; ABDX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <ABDX@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Sun, Oct 28, 2018 10:27 pm
>>>>> Subject: [nrc-am] A phasing story. Greenland 720 logged in IL.
>>>>> 
>>>>> A phasing story from last night. I live 12 miles NNW from WGN's xmtr. I
>>>>> put down a 288 ft BOG at about 35 deg // a 177 ft one. Phase null of
>> WGN
>>>>> peaked at about 50 dB and it was down close to S6 on Perseus.? Sure
>>>> enough
>>>>> there's audio seeming // KNR webstream which was mostly talk. Then from
>>>>> 0104-8 a couple of bouncy tunes sung by females clinched it leaving me
>> no
>>>>> doubt. This using the Quantum Phaser which I think I'd like 2:1 or even
>>>> 3:1
>>>>> Vernier knobs for.
>>>>> When I got Greenland at my WI DX paradise a decade ago, WGN and KNR
>> were
>>>>> about S7-8 using longer terminated BOGs. At 12 miles distance I have no
>>>>> skywave to worry about.
>>>>> I couldn't get Greenland on 650 where even though WSCR and WSM are
>> close
>>>>> together on the dial and in similar directions, WSCR IBOC crept up
>> during
>>>>> best null on WSM and visa-versa.
>>>>> IBOC sucks but phasing ROCKS. Short BOGs aren't impressive 'til you
>> phase
>>>>> them to create good back nulls. ? 73 KAZ?--
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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