Re: [IRCA] Sept 17th - Video Highlights - West Coast TP's - What was on 1368 khz?

[Chris Kadlec <beaglebass@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Keep in mind that the SAPPRTF lists in China only show stations licensed by the government, which includes perhaps only half of stations that are on the air in China. Of my usual FM stations that I could hear from my location in Korea, maybe only about 50-60% were actually in the database, and similar with my old AM regulars - many werenât in the database, but far more AMs were in the database than FMs as obviously itâs harder to go under the radar on AM than on FM at night. The rest were operating illegally, though you and the citizens would never know it as they are all covering large areas and are well-established local stations with programming and advertising. Most of them pay people off or just skirt the rules until theyâre caught, and few of them ever are. Nei Menggu usually has multiple stations on FM that arenât in the database, as Iâve heard them via Es with IDs, but they mostly hold licenses for the majority of their stations.

So I guess my point is: NEVER trust the SAPPRTF database as a resource of whatâs on the air. Take the information that IS in the database as reliable but when a station isnât in the database, donât assume it doesnât exist. It usually does. Use the station websites to confirm (if they have any) and even then, they often donât list their frequencies on there.

But I may be an âexpertâ on the ground who knows a lot, but I only know what I could regularly hear, and Inner Mongolia is certainly not one of those areas. I can only help out with what I have experience with. It could very well be any Chinese station playing a song that just doesnât match on Shazam. Itâs very possible! I wouldnât be able to confirm either way without contacting my Mongolian friend (I kinda donât wanna bother him :) â)

Itâs just gonna have to be one of those unsolved ones I guess aside from knowing the general region it came from.

-Chris Kadlec




Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 19:40:46 -0700
From: Bruce Portzer <bportzer@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Chris Kadlec <beaglebass@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Mailing list for the
	International Radio Club of America <irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Sept 17th - Video Highlights - West Coast TP's -
	What was on 1368 khz?
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According to the latest SARFT list (roughly the Chinese counterpart to 
the FCC list), there currently aren't any Nei Menggu stations on 1368.? 
I think there was one a few years ago, but recently a major reassignment 
concentrated the Nei Menggu AM stations onto about ten frequencies.? 
Maybe it was a Mongolian song on a Chinese language station?

Bruce

On 9/17/2018 18:06, Chris Kadlec wrote:
> Colin, it sounds like Nei Menggu. I can?t confirm obviously, but the song has a very Chinese pop style to it, but not so much Japanese or Korean (there are no 1368s in Korea, by the way). Plus, Shazam is very quick to identify almost any Chinese tune you throw at it, as I have confirmed with many hundreds of song matches from my own Chinese DX, even very obscure songs that I can?t even find MP3s of and not even a hint of them on YouTube or anywhere. However, it tends to be totally useless with Mongolian songs, even Mongolian-language songs released in China (i.e. Inner Mongolia), which always was a hint for me when I was hearing Inner Mongolia Es on FM when nothing at all was giving me a match. This is why I believe, without any proof since I can?t identify the song, that it was Nei Menggu. At least it?s some idea of your signal origin...
>
> -Chris Kadlec
>   Seoul AM Radio Listening Guide
>   http://www.beaglebass.com/dx/seoul/
>
>
>
> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 09:08:06 -0700
> From: "R. Colin Newell" <coffeecanuck@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [IRCA] Sept 17th - Video Highlights - West Coast TP's - What
> 	was on 1368 khz?
>
> One of the best signals this AM -- but from where?
>
> https://youtu.be/1g7OTA7yBhQ  Check out the 5 minute mark - very
> interesting - music but no speaking...
>
> Quick 6 minute video of morning highlights - it was a GOOD morning I
> think...
>


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