Re: [IRCA] Old school logging

["Paul B. Walker, Jr." <walkerbroadcasting@xxxxxxxxx>]

I do agree that no one way is right or wrong and if I come off that way.
.and sometimes I know i do, im sorry. I simply want people to get the most
out of DXing they can, take every advantage possible, and stand the most
chance of getting a QSL card or verie.



On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Bill Whitacre <bw@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> This is an interesting discussion.
>
> Seems to me that logging is another part of the hobby where there is no
> one ârightâ or âbestâ way to do it.  Weâre all doing this because itâs
> either fun or we donât have anything else to do.  Either way you need to
> find a way to keep track of what you hear thatâs âfunâ and adds to your
> enjoyment of the hobby or you wonât keep doing it.
>
> An Excel spreadsheet is a very powerful tool â you can do LOTS of things
> with a spreadsheet.
>
> BUT there are some things that you really aught to be using a database
> for.  One is making your logs available on-line.  If thatâs not important
> to you then you can stop reading.
>
> For me itâs a satisfying part of the hobby - not only are my âlogsâ just
> sound samples of what Iâve heard but I also get a kick out of figuring out
> how to coax MySQL, PHP and HTML to show what I want to show in the way I
> want to show it.
>
> An example:  http://realmonitor.com/am_logs_qh9.php
>
> Thatâs not for everyone, I understand.
>
> â
>
> It is also true that HOW you DX dictates HOW you LOG.  I use a Perseus and
> very often use Mestor to record TOH and other pieces of an hour.  So Iâve
> ALWAYS got some recorded audio to work from.  I call it TiVO DXing.
>
> I have found over 35 years of working with âprogram peopleâ at VOA that
> there is NO amount of text or verbiage that can adequately describe or
> validate a reception when compared to actually hearing it.  There MAY be
> some notes required to put the recorded audio in context but thatâs just
> another âcolumnâ in a spreadsheet or table element in a database.
>
> Besides, with a recording youâve got permanent record and can let others
> help in IDing something you canât.
>
> â
>
> Seems to me that if there were one place [website] that could handle
> anyone's loggings and sounds in various formats then that might be a useful
> option.
>
> I used to âhostâ our cityâs Little League teams website.  Over the nearly
> 10 years that I did the job I devised ways to show schedules, pictures,
> results via form input from the coaches and even a testing module for
> prospective umpires.  When I stopped doing it I thought the organization
> would struggle to replace me.  They quickly found a site on-line that did
> all that I did and more for TONS of sports teams all over the country and
> became just another one of their customers.
>
> People donât do things like that for free though â they do it to make $$ â
> even though what they charge any single customer might not seem like much..
>
> I have not looked at things like mwlist.org <http://mwlist.org/> as a
> place for putting my loggings but from what Tim Tromp has described it
> might be a place to consider.
>
> There may be others and Iâll bet hams have developed some solutions to
> this that might be adaptable to DXers use as well.
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> Bill Whitacre
> Alexandria, VA
>
> â
>
> > On Oct 9, 2017, at 8:32 AM, Russ Edmunds <wb2bjh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > First, I'll note that I've been mostly inactive the past couple of years,
> > and the only reports I send out are from DX Tests, and even those ( Such
> as
> > WBOB-600 ) don't always respond even with recordings.
> >
> > I agree with others than sometimes a recording isn't practical, such as
> on
> > my short drive to work around SR.
> >
> > I migrated all of my logs for AM, FM, & LW to Access databases a few
> years
> > ago ( previously they'd been in Excel). I use Access because it's a
> > database where I can generate any sort of output file in terms of
> selection
> > or sort. I don't use a paper backup, rather I regularly update 2 backup
> > copies contained on memory sticks, one of which is stored offsite.
> >
> >
> > Russ Edmunds
> > 15 mi NW Phila
> > Grid FN20id
> > <wb2bjh@xxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > AM: Modified Sony ICF2010's (3) barefoot w/whip
> > FM: Yamaha T-80 & T-85, each w/ Conrad RDS Decoder;
> > Onkyo T-450RDS; Tecsun PL-310 ( 4); Sony XDRS3HD;
> > modified Sony ICF2010's (2) w/APS9B @ 15';
> > modified Sony ICF2010 w/whip
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 9:56 PM, Russ Johnson <radiok3pi@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I do.
> >>
> >> I handwrite in a paper log (I use an ARRL ham radio logbook and modify
> the
> >> columns).  Then transfer to excel spreadsheet when convenient.
> >> Periodically back it up to an external hard drive.
> >>
> >> I can't think of any "logging power" one would need beyond what you can
> do
> >> in a spreadsheet.  At least not for me.
> >>
> >> Russ Johnson
> >> Lexington NC
> >>
> >> On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 9:50 PM Mike Sanburn <mikesanburn@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have often wondered how many DXers use Excel spreadsheet as an AM
> radio
> >>> log? It is always a good idea to keep things backed up with some old
> >> school
> >>> hard copy, ie paper. How many official logging software brands do we
> know
> >>> of know?  ms
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPod
> >>>
> >>>> On Oct 8, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Martin Foltz <martinfoltz@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Mark,
> >>>>
> >>>> I write details in a Composition book for what I hear daily.
> >>>> My log is a Microsoft Excel file that I have developed over time. It
> >> has
> >>> several tabs. The main log tab has all the usual columns for frequency,
> >>> calls, city, state, format, etc. Another tab is statistics that
> >>> automatically counts how many stations heard in each state and
> province.
> >>> Other tabs are to track my reception reports and veries.
> >>>>
> >>>> Martin Foltz
> >>>> Mission Viejo CA
> >>>>
> >>>>> Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2017 23:01:56 -0400
> >>>>> From: Mark Pettifor <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> To: IRCA List <irca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> Subject: [IRCA] Old school logging
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Greetings all,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Just wondering what your favorite log pages are for keeping logs of
> >> BCB
> >>>>> DX. I made a spreadsheet a while back, but in hindsight, it isn't the
> >>>>> best format. For logging right now I've just been writing stuff down
> >> in
> >>>>> a small spiral notebook, and then transferring it later to the
> >>>>> spreadsheet. That seems like double-work to me. (Not that I'm lazy or
> >>>>> anything...)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Are there some good pages already made out there on the webz
> somewhere
> >>>>> for downloading that are good? I'm thinking of going old school and
> >>>>> having a handwritten logbook in a 3-ring binder, with tabs for each
> >>>>> frequency. Or something like that.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> How do you keep your logs and how do you organize them?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mark "Disorganized" Pettifor
> >>>>> Goshen, IN
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