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Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies
Excuse the long-winded reply here, but I'm obviously passionate about the
correct flow of detailed information, for which you'll all see when I
release my 100+ bandscan guide soon...
Chuck, with all due respect to Alan Davies (who is usually too busy with his
site to reply to e-mails), Asiawaves is often very inaccurate. It takes a
person living on the ground in that region to know how much of the
information on that site is either out of date or just plain wrong.
The problem is that the site is only as good as the resources used to build
it. In the case of Korea and eastern China, I feel I am one of his main
resources (though totally indirectly as I've never shared it with him
one-on-one) for the fact that the changes I post eventually make it to his
site in a week or two. And the many things I stay totally quiet on are never
corrected and are often years out of date. (Figuring I'd probably not get
any credit for the hundreds of hours of my own research to get correct info,
so why bother sharing it privately at all til I release it under my own
name??)
So with AFN (and KBS!), until earlier this year, there were about 2+ dozen
inactive frequencies that were still listed on that site before I said "umm,
these have been off the air for *years*!" and were more or less mostly
deleted after that.
The lesson is that you should *ALWAYS* seek out a second source of
information if you want to add something to a log or public info site like
that, depending on how detailed you like to be.
My Seoul AM Listening Guide bandscan project will be finished at the end of
this week (final touches right now!) with a 110-page guide and 3-hour audio
bandscan. Without Alan's site, who knows how many extra months it would have
taken to figure out what station was what when I started that. It was an
awesome starting point I am grateful for. But in the end, the details of
perhaps 25% (not bad) of the 230 regular skywave stations were incorrect -
China changes formats and station names like the wind and builds new tower
sites the same - imagine the misinformation I would be passing on by taking
it at face value. It's unacceptable (to do that) in my eyes.
So in regards to AFN, having the internal information source, albeit not
entirely accurate as the military IS the military after all, is important.
Yes, Red Cloud has been off the air for years, but even I, while living in
Korea, was unaware that 1512 was on the air in Jinhae and Pohang, which Paul
sleuthed around (in very public places I was too lazy to bother with) to
confirm that they *are* indeed on. But imagine if you had heard pop music on
1161, just for example, and went to Asiawaves and said "oh, there's an AFN
on there!!! I got AFN" when in fact, AFN there switched to AM years ago and
the entry is false? Or the same with the numerous KBS entries, some of them
having been very high-powered stations audible across the Pacific in the
past.
Always confirm information, no matter how good you assume a source is, or
you're just contributing to misinformation. :) Just my two (or ten) cents.
Hopefully my information can contribute to Alan's site, and hopefully I get
an ounce of credit for it as I have given him. When it takes you 6 months to
realize two jammers are running parallel, it would suck when someone just
posts that in 10 seconds without credit for all your standing in the winter
wind and snow trying to figure it out for certain.
-Chris Kadlec
Seoul AM Radio Listening Guide
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 04:38:55 +0000
From: Chuck Hutton <charlesh3@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [IRCA] AFN AM Frequencies
The PAL and AsiaWaves are far more accurate and cover that entire corner
orf the world, so why use individual lists?
Chuck
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