[HCDX] VB: SV: Re: UNID 1300 kHz - Spanish language religion program

[Henrik Klemetz <hklemetz@xxxxxxxx>]

--- Henrik Klemetz <hklemetz@xxxxxxxx> skrev:

> Datum: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 20:06:02 +0200 (CEST)
> Från: Henrik Klemetz <hklemetz@xxxxxxxx>
> Ämne: SV: Re: [HCDX] UNID 1300 kHz - Spanish
> language religion program
> Till: Rocco Cotroneo <rocco.cotroneo@xxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Rocco,
> My impression is that the preacher could have
> Spanish
> as his mother tongue. I am not capable of saying if
> he
> is a "nordestino" or not, only that he does not seem
> to be Brazilian-born.
> What do you think? 
> 
> As for local IDs on IPDA stations, I do not know if
> things have changed since the 1990s when I followed
> their proceedings from my privileged location in
> Colombia.
> 
> Local IDs, from the Bogotá outlet, from Lima,
> Huánuco
> and some other places, have indeed been heard during
> deadairs, while they have been waiting for the São
> Paulo or Rio or Lima hookup. I have some of these
> IDs
> on tape. 
> 
> It is true as you say, that the IPDA outlets
> do mention addresses to churches and refrain from
> mentioning the name of the station they are hiring.
> This is very unsatisfactory, of course. Brazilians
> tend to stick to a ToH "prefixo" procedure, and I
> have
> never understood why this cannot apply to IPDA
> stations. (Does this apply to IURD stations?)
> 
> On the other hand, the church address given
> sometimes
> often is identical to that of the studio, discretely
> tucked into a corner inside the former cinema hall
> they often convert into a church.
> 
> It seems all but impossible to receive a verie from
> an
> IPDA station, save Radio Victoria, which seems to
> have
> made a U turn.
> 
> Has anyone ever raised this issue with IPDA
> officials?
> 73
> Henrik
> 
> --- Rocco Cotroneo <rocco.cotroneo@xxxxxxxxx> skrev:
> 
> > Henrik,
> > OK, we will never know the answer. Just let me
> > report here the opinion of
> > Rudolf Grimm, a well-known Brazilian dxer who
> lives
> > in Sao Bernardo, a few
> > km from the 1300 antenna. "I have never heard this
> > voice from R. Universo
> > and it sounds to me as Northeastern accent", he
> > wrote me, adding that he too
> > has never heard a full Radio Universo id.
> > What you say, Henrik, about the IPDA programmes is
> > partly true. Yes, local
> > stations all over Brazil who transmit religious
> > stuff often do refer at
> > temples and local addresses for meetings.
> Therefore
> > they offer good hints
> > for identification. This *never* happens with
> > national (or even
> > international) programmation, or when the leader
> of
> > the Church himself is
> > sermoning. This is the case of rev. David Miranda
> in
> > IPDA or bispo Edir
> > Macedo in Igreja Universal.
> > There is also a big difference between a station
> > that carry religious px at
> > times and a outlet directly owned by the church.
> The
> > latter looks like is
> > doing everything to ensure the listener doesn't
> know
> > the name of the station
> > he is listening to, they just want to be the
> channel
> > of the church, not a
> > real radio station.
> > Rocco
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 9/12/06, Henrik Klemetz <hklemetz@xxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Rocco,
> > > I did not provide the log, only a (very)
> probably
> > ID.
> > > But I agree with you: as long as there is no ID,
> > the
> > > station must be regarded as tentative.
> > >
> > > On the other hand, I have heard IPDA programming
> > from
> > > Colombia, Venezuela, Peru (various stations) and
> > > Brazil, and there is ¤always¤ some sort of an ID
> > if
> > > you are prepared to carry on listening until the
> > very
> > > end of the sermon, or if you are lucky to find
> the
> > > station before the relay gets started.
> > >
> > > In 1998 I had to tune to the IPDA relay on 6060
> > five
> > > times before I managed to get an ID, on July 27,
> > at
> > > 1002 UTC, "Rádio Tupi, Sistema Universo da
> > > Comunicação". That was just before the IPDA
> relay
> > > started.
> > >
> > > Re MW reception conditions in northern Europe, I
> > have
> > > found that the Nordeste stations are usually
> early
> > in
> > > and early out or gradually overtaken by others
> > farther
> > > down to the south as the night proceeds.
> > >
> > > So as for the stations along the eastern
> seaboard
> > of
> > > South America, those farther away are more
> easily
> > > logged a bit before the band closes. And those
> in
> > the
> > > Nordeste area tend to peak just after midnight.
> > >
> > > In the olden days, on 1410, Rádio Verdes Mares
> (in
> > > Fortaleza) would open the band at midnight, but
> > three
> > > hours later you would have a mix of Rádio
> América
> > (in
> > > São Paulo) and CX44 (in Montevideo). Then the
> band
> > > would close down.
> > > Henrik Klemetz
> > >
> > >
> > >
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